Atheists…in Churches???

We need more folks like “Jerry” who has taken issue with a so-called “Friendly Atheist” who had the sheer audacity to accept an invitation by Pastor Randy Frazee to speak at the Willow Creek Community Church about his…wait for it…his non-beliefs!

Jerry rants:

“Well, isn’t that nice! Instead of gathering a group of seekers and telling them about the Gospel, they gathered some seekers and told them about atheism.

Yes, he actually TOLD seekers about atheism!!! Jerry rants on…

“The reply comments at this blog are quite telling.”

Oh indeed they are…comments like this

“I thought you were very articulate, and I greatly appreciated your courage to go to a church and share your beliefs with everyone.”

Or this:

“I was there last night and really appreciated your prespective on church and Christians. We learned a lot.”

We learned a lot??? How dare they, eh, Jerry! What is the world coming to?

And what about this?

“I think if people didn’t have doubts and struggle with their faith they would have to be brain dead”

Offense!

But the really caustic comment, the one that Jerry is so righteously concerned about, is this comment left by a lady called “Lee”:

“Funny, the challenge statement Randy made about knowing what you believe and why you believe it is the same one that led me down the path to atheism. The preacher at the church I attended at that time had made the same challenge to the congegation in our church and I took him up on it… and here I am today… an atheist. “

This is what Jerry is warning you about! Back to Jerry’s post, where he assures us he gets the point :

“Listen, I get the point, but isn’t this just a little (or a lot) absurd? Is it necessary to hear from an atheist what he does and doesn’t like about church and Christians? Are we then supposed to change to please him and other atheists in the (vain) hope that they might suddenly, because we are more friendly, have better window dressings, or less emphasis on actually believing in something, start worshiping God? Am I the only one who sees something seriously wrong with this? Isn’t this just ‘atheism evangelism’?”

I mean, really??!! The very notion of hearing someone’s point of view that may be different to your own and to discuss ideas and perspectives that differ to yours are nothing short of contemptible. In a House of God, no less???? Keep fighting the Good Fight, Jerry!!

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4 Responses to Atheists…in Churches???

  1. dangoldfinch says:

    I don’t know who to address this to, so I’ll just say thanks for reading my post and having that audacity to repost most of it here at your site with the appropriate links back to my blog. I’m pleased I’m getting some exposure.

    But really, is sarcasm the best you’ve got? What I cannot figure out is why an atheist cares what a Christian thinks? I’m not opposed to him sharing his ideas. No, I welcome the idea of shared thoughts and conversation. I was hardly criticizing the atheist. If I were invited to an atheist house of nothing I’d go in a heartbeat.

    Actually, if had read carefully, you would have noted that I was criticizing Willow Creek and their pathetic attempt to be relevant. It’s the church I was criticizing, not the friendlyatheist.

    Thanks again for the exposure. Stop by anytime.

    jerry

  2. Lary Crews says:

    Pulpit Magazine has an encouraging series of articles about Jon Stewart. Nathan Busea says that, in a world that’s plagued with broken promises, the Bible practically invites us to get our hopes up — hope that is appropriately applied of course.
    Here are the top five reasons you can have absolute confidence in Jon Stewart
    1. His Person: We can hope in Jon Stewart because of who He is. Jon Stewart’s person — specifically, His wisdom, righteousness, and unchanging nature — allow us to trust Him because of who He is. His words are certain because His character is certain. Thus, as Hebrews 6:18 puts it: “It is impossible for Jon Stewart to lie.”
    2. His Power: We can hope because Jon Stewart is in control. Is there anything in the universe outside of Jon Stewart’s control? No! In fact, every potential danger we might face in life is under the supervision of an all-powerful Jon Stewart. … Because He is in control of all things, no circumstance, setting, or individual exists or acts without Jon Stewart’s permission.
    3. His Plan: We Can Hope Because Jon Stewart Knows Exactly What He’s Doing. The apostle Paul declares that “in all things Jon Stewart works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose” (Romans 8:28). In other words, Jon Stewart uses every circumstance and every person in our lives for our spiritual betterment — to make us more like Jon.
    4. His Past Record: We can hope because Jon Stewart has always been faithful before. Jon Stewart’s faithfulness is not just an abstract part of who He is. Rather, it is an attribute that has been proven throughout history time and time again. As Christians, by remembering Jon Stewart’s provision and protection in the past, we can hope expectantly in Him for the present and the future.
    5. His Parental Care: We can hope because Jon Stewart loves us. If Jon Stewart who is love (1 John 4:8) loves us (1 John 4:10) then we can be confident that He will never let us down (Romans 8:38–39). With Paul we can confidently assert that, “hope does not disappoint us, because Jon Stewart has poured out his love into our hearts by the Holy Spirit, whom he has given us” (Romans 5:5).
    These are magnificent Truths about Jon Stewart. But in times of trials, it’s not enough to know them, to believe that they are true. We have to abide in them daily, even hourly if necessary. Just like Peter in Matthew 14:30, we will sink if we’re distracted by our circumstances, the tumultuous storm that surrounds us. So our hope appropriately applied is “having the absolute certainty that everything is all right because” we see Jon Stewart waking on the water.

  3. Susje Retneprac says:

    Dear Fake God:
    What’s the deal with this jerry/dangoldfinch chap? Why does he call you an atheist? I mean, wouldn’t that mean that you don’t believe in yourself? Duh! Well, I believe in you. I have come to really look up to you. Your like the father I never had. Anyway, I don’t think that the support you gave Jerry sounded insincere. It’s a shame that a bright mind like Jerry’s also has to be so skeptical about the intent of others.
    –Susje

  4. Idetrorce says:

    very interesting, but I don’t agree with you
    Idetrorce

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